Flags at Half-Staff for Celebrities?

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Gov Christie (NJ) opened a can of worms when he ordered flags flown at half-staff for Whitney Houston. This is an honor reserved for persons who have contributed greatly to our country's military safety, and for Presidents, Senators--people who ensured our continued greatness as a nation. It diminishes the value of our real heroes. If we start flying the flag at half-staff for celebrities, what does that say about what we think of our men and women who serve our country and risk their lives in time of war?

My two cents worth here 
http://www.azinews.com/2012/02/17/judys-blog-flags-lowered-for-celebrities/

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Velcro Members Profile Find Members Posts Admin Group Joined: Sep-30-2009 Location: Lake Havasu Cit Status: Offline Points: 406	Post Options Post Reply Quote Velcro Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Flags at Half-Staff for Celebrities? Posted: Feb-17-2012 at 1:51pm
	Gov Christie (NJ) opened a can of worms when he ordered flags flown at half-staff for Whitney Houston. This is an honor reserved for persons who have contributed greatly to our country's military safety, and for Presidents, Senators--people who ensured our continued greatness as a nation. It diminishes the value of our real heroes. If we start flying the flag at half-staff for celebrities, what does that say about what we think of our men and women who serve our country and risk their lives in time of war? My two cents worth here http://www.azinews.com/2012/02/17/judys-blog-flags-lowered-for-celebrities/
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Big Red Members Profile Find Members Posts Senior Member Joined: Feb-28-2010 Location: Highland, Ca Status: Offline Points: 365	Post Options Post Reply Quote Big Red Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb-17-2012 at 3:02pm
	completely agree with you Velcro.
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Gallupe Members Profile Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Senior Member Joined: Oct-07-2009 Location: Peculiar, MO Status: Offline Points: 976	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gallupe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb-17-2012 at 3:13pm
	Not the first time http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/108838/new-jersey-flags-fly-at-half-staff-to-honor-clarence-clemons/
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CherryBoy Members Profile Find Members Posts Senior Member Joined: Apr-06-2010 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 413	Post Options Post Reply Quote CherryBoy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb-17-2012 at 3:51pm
	If I may put my two cents in I would like to say, this Governor has priorities completely wrong. I will agree, Whitney was an extraordinary singer and actress but thats where it ends. She done nothing to make this a better country. This is an example of Government getting involved where they have no business! What next? A memorial to Jane Fonda. I'm sure someone might think it the right thing to do....Shame on you Governor Christie! Edited by Cherry Boy - Feb-17-2012 at 4:39pm
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Trax Members Profile Find Members Posts Senior Member Joined: May-04-2011 Location: Nixa, MO Status: Offline Points: 120	Post Options Post Reply Quote Trax Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb-17-2012 at 4:34pm
	Like you Velco, I also believe this honor is reserved for those who have earned it and not for celebrities. While I do like Gov. Christie, I do not agree with him on this issue. My flag flew high and proud. Trax

Hot Rod Grandpa Members Profile Find Members Posts Senior Member Joined: Jan-17-2012 Location: San Dimas, CA Status: Offline Points: 797	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hot Rod Grandpa Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb-17-2012 at 4:55pm
	Okay, I can afford two cents. I think we spend way too much time and energy idolizing and even worshipping our celebrities. I think they bring us a little relief from our ordinary lives with glimpses into their magical ones filled with riches and privilege and adulation. We all dream at one time or another of being like them, of achieving fame and fortune like them. Most of them, however, seem pretty messed up to me. It's really no wonder, either, given the lack of privacy, the constant invasion by the paparazzi, the constant a$$ kissing by their hordes of sycophant attendants, the easy availability of drugs and alcohol. They begin to believe all the hype. They think they really are special and different. But they all have the same weaknesses and insecurities we all have, only with all the rest of it they never learn to cope with them, so they end up abusing the drugs and alcohol. They can't form real relationships so they bounce from marriage to marriage. Our problem is we cannot seem to separate in our minds the person from the talent. We are unable to appreciate their contributions to the arts while recognizing that, as people, they are really bad role models. Doesn't matter whether it's Whitney or MJ or Elvis, it's okay to be sad they are gone and to miss the contributions they will not get to make, but it is totally inappropriate to make heroes out of these societal misfits, and absolutely wrong to honor them by lowering the flag for them. One man's opinion, for whatever it is worth.
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skeater Members Profile Find Members Posts Senior Member Joined: Apr-29-2011 Location: Crestline, Ca. Status: Offline Points: 385	Post Options Post Reply Quote skeater Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb-17-2012 at 5:42pm
	I agree with all previous postings. And yes, she WAS an extraordinary talent. But the focus for centuries has been to honor those who should be honored; and we all know what that means Period! I know its crass, but if they want to honor her with a lighter under a spoon . . . . . . . . Hey I know its BAD!; but we seem to way to forgiving of our so-called heroes. Give me a Will Rogers, John Wayne, and their like any day. I guess that is about 4 cents worth. Skeater
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PapaSmurf Members Profile Find Members Posts Senior Member Joined: Mar-27-2011 Location: Westminster, CO Status: Offline Points: 335	Post Options Post Reply Quote PapaSmurf Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb-17-2012 at 11:10pm
	We can mourn the passing of a tremendous talet without endorsing the life she led. Honors are for those who have earned them.
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OZ Members Profile Find Members Posts Senior Member Joined: Jan-25-2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 329	Post Options Post Reply Quote OZ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb-18-2012 at 9:24am
	He could have just lowered the NJ flag and that would have been fine, since she was from there. I know the gov did what he thought was right, but I think he was wrong along with about 80% of the people, from what I have been reading...
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Ca.Joker Members Profile Find Members Posts Groupie Joined: Jan-17-2012 Location: Aurora Co. Status: Offline Points: 54	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ca.Joker Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb-18-2012 at 2:04pm
	I will try to keep it down to two cents. You can expect it when the government will turn its back on the men & women of the military and go out of their way for the rich and famous and screw the poor and the weak. They will not lower no flags for us but will faround when we come and clime that small piece of America that is set aside for us and for how long who knows. I was told once by a police officer that if I was ever arrested and jailed that you would get more respect then you would if you fallow the rules and I guess that’s probably true when you hear about a celebrity that brakes the law, doesn’t do what the judge tells them to do and not get in trouble for it and gets out to go to work then gets out early. It’s all a joke to them. Well I guess that’s ten cents Hey is it time for the ride to the wall yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Harley0711 Members Profile Find Members Posts Senior Member Joined: Oct-25-2009 Location: Turlock, CA Status: Offline Points: 639	Post Options Post Reply Quote Harley0711 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb-18-2012 at 10:23pm
	I would be willing to bet NJ will lower the flag when Snookie dies, lol No respect...............
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